tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post664448234253174207..comments2023-06-08T07:49:15.867-05:00Comments on The Reformed Gadfly: Lone Ranger Christianity?Tim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06771868540726222826noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-88917119589408631432008-01-02T20:08:00.000-06:002008-01-02T20:08:00.000-06:00And I thought it was only me until recently. Left...And I thought it was only me until recently. Left the church in which I was saved because of the seeker friendly, PDL type of gospel. Even was told not to involve myself in the evangelism committee because of being in the vein of WOTM. Now my family and I are striving for a New Testament fellowship, though now it's only us. And we worship and have Lord's supper as a full meal, though I'm the Jfranklin6https://www.blogger.com/profile/10652187147202440613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-21702784407856292262008-01-01T09:46:00.000-06:002008-01-01T09:46:00.000-06:00Thanks, Tim. Good article. Exactly my thoughts.Thanks, Tim. Good article. Exactly my thoughts.Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-91590517974376773292007-12-31T09:52:00.000-06:002007-12-31T09:52:00.000-06:00Note: Billy did respond, but I have chosen not to ...Note: Billy did respond, but I have chosen not to post his comment. If you wish to see an example of Billy's type of "discussion", click <A HREF="http://peculiarpilgrim.wordpress.com/2007/06/20/coming-out-from-among-them-epilogue/" REL="nofollow">here.</A><BR/><BR/>This thread is, and will continue to be, dedicated as a "quiet place" for discussion and support for those who have suffered the Tim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06771868540726222826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-9064712040948511672007-12-30T13:59:00.000-06:002007-12-30T13:59:00.000-06:00Billy:Though I do not know you or your heart, it w...Billy:<BR/><BR/>Though I do not know you or your heart, it would seem that your comment reflects the very attitude that led so many of us to leave established churches.<BR/><BR/>From your website, you seem rather sympathetic to postmodern "Christianity". Therefore, what you have to "offer" us are things which we believe to be fundamentally contrary to what Scripture teaches.<BR/><BR/>Contrary to Tim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06771868540726222826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-54086196483557665642007-12-29T22:22:00.000-06:002007-12-29T22:22:00.000-06:00Just wondering if any of you go out to do evangeli...Just wondering if any of you go out to do evangelism as a part of your "worship". In other words, do you have your (excuse my terminology) "worship time" then do something like have lunch then go out and do evangelism?<BR/><BR/>Seems to me that this is a great idea...Tim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06771868540726222826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-68075309138742064672007-12-29T21:57:00.000-06:002007-12-29T21:57:00.000-06:00The only thing I would recommend is to not get too...The only thing I would recommend is to not get too many people in your home church - just 2, maybe 3 couples. If you get more than that, you're bound to include someone with imperfect theology. Then you'll have to sell your house, move, and again search for those with perfect theology. And as you have discovered, there are only a handful of you.Billy Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13979167378414984612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-64901036092351951152007-12-09T18:55:00.000-06:002007-12-09T18:55:00.000-06:00Tim,You're definitely not alone out here. Sit in ...Tim,<BR/>You're definitely not alone out here. Sit in a crowed church feeling totally alone, with a bulletin full of feel good events and ministries to get "connected". Constant reminders to discover my "shape", to become "wild at heart" and "purpose driven". Yet feeling utterly alone in my pain, watching people who are such professing christians and who are so caught up in the world and the Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00833725192258613330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-82392126554744881162007-12-07T23:34:00.000-06:002007-12-07T23:34:00.000-06:00Thank you for your post about this as I can really...Thank you for your post about this as I can really relate. My husband and I are currently looking for a different church after we discovered our church was a member of willow creek association and also taught some pdl ideas. We met with leadership in the church, and after that, there was no doubt in our mind or heart that God was telling us that it was time to move on. This is hard as some of ourJennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294835382925359078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-58197195021034202072007-12-07T15:28:00.000-06:002007-12-07T15:28:00.000-06:00Thanks for your kind thoughts and for posting on t...Thanks for your kind thoughts and for posting on this topic, Tim.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work re: the "Christian response" letter. It is completely beyond the pale of orthodoxy.Shark Foodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14054699340877611238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-62269429304360327102007-12-07T12:32:00.000-06:002007-12-07T12:32:00.000-06:00Hi Jeff:I'm sorry to hear about your church, altho...Hi Jeff:<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry to hear about your church, although you're right...I'd probably recognize it. It's far too common. There was one large church in Tennessee that has since gone purpose driven. I remember there was a rather large fight over it. I'm sure the fomer pastor would be rolling in his grave.<BR/><BR/>No, it's not limited to small towns or churches...and changing pastors is a Tim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06771868540726222826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-67527817935177185532007-12-07T11:48:00.000-06:002007-12-07T11:48:00.000-06:00Tim, thanks for this post. It was a comfort. What...Tim, thanks for this post. It was a comfort. <BR/><BR/>What you describe is not solely a small town phenomenon. My wife and I have been members of a large church in a very well-known "evangelical" town for ten years. If I gave the name, many would recognize it.<BR/><BR/>A year ago the senior pastor retired. Since then, there have been no candidates presented to the congregation. The Shark Foodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14054699340877611238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-22622200362396171492007-12-07T10:20:00.000-06:002007-12-07T10:20:00.000-06:00Hey Tim,This is Brandon from over at A Peculiar Pi...Hey Tim,<BR/>This is Brandon from over at A Peculiar Pilgrim. Just last year i experienced the painful process of separation from my old AOG church turned PDL. I am now attending a large SBC church. <BR/>First, I must say, my new church home is a major upgrade, at least in terms of gospel preaching and teaching, but it isn't perfect. I don't think the preaching and teaching goes very deep. beaconlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06502412447530936396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-4269454197716094312007-12-07T10:16:00.000-06:002007-12-07T10:16:00.000-06:00Jenny:Welcome to the blog, and thanks for commenti...Jenny:<BR/><BR/>Welcome to the blog, and thanks for commenting. <BR/><BR/>Your story sounds similar. in 2004, the wife of our worship team leader told me that if I didn't like the music, I should leave. Mind you, she was a "pastor" from a presbyterian church (but out of work), she was just visiting...but basically spoke for her husband...Then it got worse. <BR/><BR/>Then there were two other Tim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06771868540726222826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-42788435591860955082007-12-07T09:12:00.000-06:002007-12-07T09:12:00.000-06:00Tim,The empty feeling one gets on leaving a church...Tim,<BR/><BR/>The empty feeling one gets on leaving a church overrun with PDL & Hybels does indeed give an amount of desolation and depression. BUT, God is faithful and lifts us out of this dispair.<BR/><BR/>I thank the Lord that He carried me through this and led me to a church that is Christ centered and Bible driven. When I first started looking for such a church, it seemed like a hopeless pturtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07646697268412168139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33409962.post-53478114025518663122007-12-07T09:00:00.000-06:002007-12-07T09:00:00.000-06:00I just discovered your blog this morning. Thank y...I just discovered your blog this morning. Thank you so much! I came here by way of "Rick Warren apologizing to Allah", read your post on the subliminal messages in the "seeker" church which I thought was very good, and now have read this post.<BR/><BR/>My husband and I recently left the church we attended for almost 25 years. We had approached the pastor about our concerns about being a Willowjennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14584954467004936255noreply@blogger.com